May 17, 2022 at 4:43 pm #90112
I just received an email informing me that Super Cruise won’t be available on the Lyriq Debut Edition until the end of the year. As Super Cruise is the only reason I ordered this car I don’t want to buy it sight unseen, in particular without being able to see if Super Cruise meets my needs. Anyone else in this situation?
Vaughan PrattMay 17, 2022 at 5:49 pm #90115Alex LuftKeymaster
I’m not in a similar situation, but I understand what you mean.
If Super Cruise is your concern, then may I suggest doing a test drive of an existing Cadillac model with Super Cruise, such as the Escalade, CT4 or CT5. The Super Cruise system in those models will function mostly (if not entirely) the same as the one in the Lyriq.May 17, 2022 at 6:43 pm #90118
Thanks, Alex, that seems like an excellent approach.
My one concern would be, what if in December GM announces that subsequent testing has revealed that for unforeseen technical reasons Super Cruise can’t be safely used on the Lyriq after all, and therefore won’t be available? While that might seem unlikely, it seems equally unlikely to me that Super Cruise has been in use on other GM vehicles since 2017 and is available today on the Bolt EUV, but won’t be available on the Lyriq for another six months. Has GM encountered some unexpected obstacle, and if so is it guaranteed that they’ll be able to overcome whatever that obstacle might be?May 17, 2022 at 6:56 pm #90123Alex LuftKeymaster
Ah, I see what you mean. It’s certainly not an unreasonable way of thinking.
That said, the delay in Super Cruise in the Lyriq (based on what I know) is related to delays in testing the system to GM’s standards. In other words, they need to put on a few hundred thousand Super Cruise miles on the final integrated prototypes, which obviously requires time. To that end, the team didn’t have the full amount of time for that since the launch timeframe for the Lyriq was moved up by nearly a year.
All in, I would be shocked if the scenario that you described ends up taking place. What I see taking place is that they’ll fully validate Super Cruise and launch it once that’s complete.May 18, 2022 at 1:46 am #90140
Thanks, Alex. Your scenario (GM just needs more time to test SC on the Lyriq) is the one at the most optimistic end of my possible scenarios. My most pessimistic one (GM announcing they couldn’t get SC to work on the Lyriq) seems sufficiently unlikely that I’m ok taking the risk of it actually happening.
While waiting for SC to come online on the Lyriq, at least I’ll have ACC during those six (?) months, which is what I had on my Toyota Mirai during 2016-2019 and which I sadly gave up when I switched to the Chevy Bolt. And maybe some other nice things about the Lyriq that aren’t on the Bolt, like more comfortable seats maybe? (I deal with that Bolt problem with big foam cushions that helped enormously on drives longer than an hour.)
Main downside of the Lyriq over the Bolt for me is its 196″ length compared to the Bolt EV’s 164″ length, which will barely fit in my garage. What I don’t understand at all is how the Lyriq’s cargo capacity is almost identical to the Bolt’s. How is it possible that GM was unable to use even one inch of that extra 32″ of length to give the Lyriq even one more cubic foot of cargo capacity than the Bolt EV?May 21, 2022 at 1:20 pm #90243
On second thoughts it occurs to me that if Super Cruise is installed but not yet activated, adaptive cruise control might not work. Anyone know if ACC works on a Lyriq with SC not yet activated? If it doesn’t then without even ACC I’d be better off with a Bolt EUV with SC activated, which is available today. However much nicer BEV3 is over BEV2, that can’t make up for no ACC.May 23, 2022 at 12:54 pm #90257
Today I received a reminder about the Debut Edition of the Lyriq which says the following. “When your LYRIQ is produced, it will be equipped with Super Cruise driver assistance technology+ and Surround Vision hardware. An over-the-air vehicle software update will be necessary to activate these features. Cadillac will contact you directly when these updates become available, expected late 2022.”
Is Surround Vision the same thing as 360 degree birds-eye view (a feature we’ve had on both our Bolt Premiers since 2017). If so, does the above mean that if we upgrade from the Bolt to the Lyriq we will be without birds-eye view until late 2022?May 25, 2022 at 7:22 am #90306sherwinParticipant
just like to know who sent the email to you?
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